Moron Claymate Gets Manipulated

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:42:46 -0800 (PST)
From: "deborah berry" Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: shelly fradkin
To: "B. Ashe"




Angel, you do know that i am not upset with you at all, now i cant say the same about emach because she may not remember it now, but she was very abusive to me on bolt quite ahwile ago. I hate the fued, i think the fueds are stupid and i wish instead everyone could spend their energies getting the radio dj's too realize that just because clay, ruben kelly and heck the rest of them came from American idol..they are still legitimate talents!!
As for boomer..trust me. she is a thorn in rht side as much as yours right now. She is a group of about 3 or 4 that i believe they called the basement bitches because they use to post together on one of the old sites sub areas that most people did not got to. And i dont care who it is, she spends most of her time thinking anyone who doesnt agree with her is someone else. She decided just the other week that i was Todd because i was taking his side when we had a major problem when the bb's were having a big fight with one of our few male posters, and they made it public instead of trying to handle it with pm's. I have to deal with her alot because i babysit the i'm concerned section so i do not have the option of just putting here and others that get anoying on the ignore button option. She actually was going to leave over that fight,(a couple of the others did, all but one have come back) and of course...Boomer came back but even more fired up then ever. As for the isp thing, that is a thing that anyone can do and get anywhere and i first saw it used to prove multiple online personalities at TTC when their big broo-ha came out when their founders left the site. I also know that isp can and cannot change depending on if you are a dial up or dsl, not sure of the exact tech, part of it. I am sending your email to Todd, i know that it wouldnt do any good for him to butt in because it just doesnt work with the bb's, he did the one moving of a thread a thread a few months ago (not delete mind you, just moving) and you would of thought he had shot some one dead that group was sooooooo upset. I guess that is the situation when you deal with a free speech, NON MODERATED site, which rht is. And trust me, todd is as upset about peoples "location" being made public, because he always was public with his name and location and could have to deal with the consequences if someone wasnt thinking "quite" right and wanted to do something bad. I am very concerned about the threats shelly told me was made against her. (though, i also do understand that she could just be making it up) I think that is the frustration i am feeling now more than anything, as you could tell when i posted my statement today. I am so confused as to the whats, and who, and the whys with the ruben fans that have been sooo public with the misdeads that initiated and followed through by some of the main ruben board supporters. I am just learning about the power issues that seem to develop in situations like this, and never thought i would actually end up on the side that could actually have a little power..(which in itself is a big joke when i look at..i have the power to do what? Yep..NOTHING!!! i cant even delete a post if i thouht it needed to!) whoops.. i just saw that emach has emailed me. oh vey, why does she scare me soo much.lol help me if you can on that one. Because while i said what i did, tongue in cheek about having a ruben section. I talked to todd big about it monday night and he thinks it would be a great idea!!!!! (and also because it would freak the crap out of people like boomer!!!!) And i wish there wasnt this animosity between you all that from what i can tell started at bolt, because i really think YOU should be the one to head it! not shelly, not emach, but you because i have been pm by different people (those that dont like to post) that on the whole by and large, you seem to be pretty level headed. Just a big ruben fan, like i am a big clay fan! Oh well, i hate having to do all of this on the computer. perhaps friday when i am done with my final class exams tom. afternoon and have some real free time. We can talk on the phone. If that is okay with you, let me know and i will give you my phone number (because i dont want you to worry about me having yours) Okay..i am going to go read emachs email now and then i will forward yours to todd and see what can be done, (i have been gone since i left today at noon, so i have no idea what all has been going on this afternoon. really am afraid to even check it out) feel free to give emach a call after you get this, and trust me with the fact, that while right now i am so confused with what is exactly going on, (i literally puked when i read the stuff at the euroweb site over thanksgiving) i still hate the fact that we are having to take the time dealing with crap when we should all be celebrating the success both clay and ruben have right now! (you were right about the whole shelly thing causing a problem. That is why i didnt post her email to me when she first did email. (which is why i think she started the thread in the first place a week or so later) oh well, isnt "the view" with ruben tom? or is it friday. I need to know so i can set my vcr. i thought he did a great job on leno, and i like the stuff on et last night! (did anyone ever answer my question i asked on rs.com about if there is a site where you can see ruben videos of his stuff on the web?) If not, that is why you need to consider the rht thing because it is great to be able to get and see stuff like tha on the computer. i would die without my ability to get some serious clack online!
later, deb (by the way, no one has yet answered my question about if you all wanted to use my Rolling Stone that ruben autog. as some kind fundraiser or what ever, because the offer is still out there.)

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