The Truth About What Happened: April 2008

Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Hate and Envy Rot your Soul!

I was part of a smear campaign against Clay Aiken from the very beginning. I was a Ruben fan and I was caught up in the rivalry between the Claymates and the Ruben fans. We did some awful things back then, which I will tell in this blog but the reason I want to expose this is that it never stopped.

I thought that it would end when Ruben got his debut out and he sold great, but these crazy bitches are still doing it. Five years have passed and they are as vicious as ever. I was part of it and I am sorry but I want to right the wrong.

What they did is unethical and the media should know what is going on! Ruben and Clay are friends and they wouldn't want this to happen to either one of them. They have no idea what was done to them. Ruben's mother, Emily, Alvin and his brother Kevin knew of it and didn't stop it, but they should have.

I got involved starting in May 2003 but it was not when it all started. The disseminating of rumors and smear tactics was already in full swing during the American Idol season before I found out. One of the group is a marketing expert with pro computer skills. She told them what to do, what to write, when and who to write to.

Did you ever wonder where the whole gay bashing started? They sent letters to gay gossip writers pretending to be in Clay's life. They posed as ex-lovers, room mates, classmates and family friends. They wrote as if they were worried about Clay, they pretended to be upset that Clay was being arrogant and cocky, or they posed as angry jilted gay lovers. By 2005 they came up with one of their most heinous plots. They would pay to have someone go to the tabloids and confess to being abused and dumped.

They wrote comments on gossip sites pretending to have talked to Clay on instant messages. They opened accounts on MySpace and on gay social networking sites impersonating Clay Aiken. They gave him the names valleyprettyboy, happychappy2, skippermagee, skippermageeblue, revnoles and ralehote (Raleigh Hottie). They wrote to Billy Masters and "exposed" Clay as a gay internet troll on Gay.com. as far back as March of 2003

It makes me sick to think about it now.

They wrote letters to every media outlet they could think of, including sending out that press release in 2006 posing as 9 ex fans of Clay's that were going to sue RCA and Clay Aiken for not being the straight man he was being marketed as. They celebrated as it was spread around the world in gossip columns and music news sites.

They wrote racist letters to Star Jones at The View that upset her a lot. They wrote to Kathy Griffin, Wanda Sykes, Conan O'Brien, Carson Daly, Jay Leno, David Letterman, MTV's VJ's, music critics and hundreds of disc jockeys and program directors. They posed as disillusioned ex fans that were so angry at the Claymates and Clay that they had to write to expose them. They complained about his songs on the radio, they accused Clay and his fans of being racists, they spread rumors of perversion and pedophilia, but the worst of it was done where nobody could see it, in letters and e-mails telling tales that he was, racist and homophobic and that he was a Christian Fundamentalist and an anti-gay Republican, none of which is true . They had no remorse about the lies they were telling. The plan was to destroy Clay Aiken and it was going to be accomplished no matter what.

The hate and the smear is still going on. The old Soulful Sistahs site is gone but the writings were saved by many people that were given the log in information before the Sistahs shut it down. I was one of them.

Defection is Good for the Soulful

One of their own members at Soulful Sistahs turned on them and put up a website about what she had witnessed and her disgust with it. The site isn't there any longer but the contents were saved. I was a coward then and I regret not speaking out at that time or sooner.

These are all from the website that was saved before it was deleted.

What I am about to post here may shock some people. However, I don't think it will shock any Clay Aiken fans that have ever dealt with the diehard Ruben Studdard group. I think the only fans to be shocked will be those in the Ruben Studdard camp. And they'll only be shocked because someone finally turned their back and called them out.

I won't be talking about all of his fans, just a small, select few that seem to be operating under the delusion that "nothing", and I mean nothing, can ever touch them. The few who spend all of their days on Bolt and the JRecords website, not to mention the Clay boards they frequent under various guises. The few who spend all of their time marching to the beat of Emach1300's and AngelicIsis' drums, including those two, themselves.

The point of this website? To let you know that AngelicIsis really is Jaysen Miller, and I can back that up.

Do you remember Jaysen Miller? Jaysen Miller wrote two very eloquent stories for Beavers On Idol about Clay Aiken. Two stories where he claimed to be a fan but was so turned off by the energy and devotion of the Clay fans that he felt the need to write. Each and every one of those stories were fabricated.

Jaysen Miller links:

Dear Mr Dj: Will you have a mind of your own?
Opinion of a fan http://www.beaversonidol.com/articles/dearmrdjresponse.html and http://www.beaversonidol.com/articles/opinionofafan.html

As well as that, there is this. The below link will take you to a Google cached page where AngelicIsis signs Ruben's birthday guestbook notating Jaysen next to her name. This almost leads me to believe that those close to Ruben know she faked these stories and it was her way of waving and saying, "Hey! It's me!" Just scroll down the page until you hit the lightblue high-lighted text.

Guestbook entry: http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:Slhec...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Another interesting thing to note is that if you do a Google search based on the results for Ruben Studdard and the name "Jaysen" the only thing that even appears is three results. Two that lead to the Jaysen Miller stories and one that leads right to Angelic Isis.

Google Results: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-...ddard%22+jaysen

I know that all seems like conjecture but if you read this page fully I will be providing information directly from the horse's mouth.

There is a secret Ruben Studdard message board. One that you need to be a member to access. I have access to information posted on this board through a Ruben fan who has become a close friend of mine. She has become dejected by the level of fighting. There will be no peace coming from this board no matter what they try to feed you. In fact, even Ruben's mother has decided peace is not an option and has asked this group to continue fighting on Ruben's behalf.

She goes on to say;

I've seen it all with my own eyes and it isn't pretty. In fact, let me direct you to this image.

That, my friends, is a link to their "banner". I think it speaks volumes for what they are capable of and how they really feel. Of course it is hosted on another site, which you can research yourself. This is the banner they use to giggle and scoff about each and every time they log on.

This board will offer you many forums to choose from, including a forum devoted entirely to Fred Bronson and his support of Clay. Of course no thread in there will talk about support in any way other than what sexual positions he and Clay might prefer were they ever to hook up, but it's there. They bash on the Clayboard, Bolt, RedHotTopic. They bash everyone they can get their hands on. Even past Ruben "insiders" are open for assault. Only the special few inside are exempt from their abuse. They formulate fake letter writing campaigns and mock Clay fans with every turn of their head.

They talk about their fake accounts on all of these boards. Who they are when they go in and what they say. They swap around these screennames in an effort to throw people off their trail.

Anyone who has dealt with them and has been cast aside, like my friend, will know I speak the truth.

As well, for Angel, Emach and the group, please check your own backyard. You've hurt a lot of people -- even Ruben's fans themselves -- and it's no surprise someone turned you out. Invoke a small amount of kindness and understanding and maybe these folks won't feel the need to forward around your private information. I'm not the only one who has seen this with my own eyes, many have.

That said, here is the information I am bringing to you. It needs to be out.

Make up your own minds.

"The Truth"

Here is what they had to say about Ruben's mom:

"You know what emach? This group is like a football team and you are the quarterback. If you quit the game, who the hell is going to lead the team? I'm all for a holiday break, but i'll be damned if I let 'them' punk me.

Have you forgotten that email that we got from Ms. Emily and company this week? Maybe we should enlighten the 'group'.

Emach and I had sent a long letter to Ms. Emily, which she received and dealt with. However she didn't email us back right away and we got frustrated, so we sent her another email stating that maybe they wanted us to lay off of everything. We had explained how we are referred to as "Ruben's Pit Bulls" and "Gangsta Girls" by a lot of the groups because of the way that we defend Ruben. We let Miss Emily know that we were willing to forego our tactics if that was her wish.

Well on Sunday night we got an email back informing us that the 'situation' had been dealt with and to please NOT stop supporting Ruben the way that we have!

YES they know about us Soulful group, yes Ruben knows as well, because Captain hand-delivered a letter that I had written about our group which included everyone's names.

Miss Emily said:

So, to each his own, do whatever the hell ya wanna do, but my husband and I will keep doing our thang here. Emach, whatever you do you have my support 100%."

What's it all About?

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THERE'S A METHOD TO OUR MADNESS

Dear Friends:
I understand that we all have a common goal in coming to this board and that is to Help Ruben by exposing Clay and his fans. We are extremely fierce in our quest, but WE CAN'T LOSE PERSPECTIVE HERE!!!!!
We are proceeding with caution and not putting ALL our eggs in one basket. We want you to write your letters, but don't waste ALL the evidence on someone less significant (DJ's).
We need to target Critics, in particular, because they are the ones who evaluate the sales of a CD. We need to emphasize the multiple CD purchases and provide them with proof.
Please, PLease, be polite and NEVER mention Ruben or being a Ruben fan. We are taking the dissapointed Clay fan angle or any other angle as long as it doesn't smell like "disgruntled, bitter Ruben fans".
I know we want to rip the elfin to pieces, but we have come too far to mess up. Good things happen to those who wait, we are patient. Continue the letter campaign, but use your discretion in writing to these people. Any indication that it is a mailing campaign and we will be doomed. So let's not get too impulsive. Okay?
You are doing an excellent job with the letters and we have accomplished a lot. Keep up the good work!!!!!

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

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Elaine Machado
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My wk.# is 205-798-9993

"Never underestimate the power of a Rubenette"

Whistle Blowing 101

They were super upset when they found the website exposing them.

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Here are Gibblet's responses to my B/N's

Good God I finally got on that link! I have no clue how to even do that shit! They mixed up the posts it looks like. It looks like my crack about their ages is in response to Angel being found out as Jayson. What the hell is going on? How did they get those posts?

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I have absolutely no idea! Ever since I couldn't get into my ISP email I remembered that someone mentioned on Soulful that they had our ISPs on RHT. So now I'm wondering if I've been hacked. I can't get anyone to tell my what the hell is going on! It wasn't me honest! I just cancelled my membership because my feelings were hurt! I'd NEVER do this especially since MY posts are all over the place there too! I've been in bed all afternoon and then on the Bee Gees EZboard tonight. Then I get here and I'm being accused of something I don't know anything about!

Gibblette
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I didn't do a damn thing but leave Soulful empty handed! Why are you and Emach blaming this on me? Who set me up? What the hell is going on?

"I met Ruben" Clare and Sherri are awesome ladies! "Soulful Rocks"

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I wonder what she means by "leave soulful empty handed". Was there an argument that I missed, why would she leave?

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Steph she is talking about emach's thread above. "Please respond...."

There was no reason for her to leave....but she did, but not before cutting and pasting a LOT of threads from here.

...."Come on Take the Shot..."

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Thanks angel, now I see. It looks like she felt someone attacked her but that doesn't mean she had to paste things. It looks like she was looking for any excuse to get angry so she could do this.

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Guys, I think I'm going to delete a few of my posts. This is scary, I wonder how she got in?

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We were hacked by the same person who has been tracking ISPs on us. She is deep trouble now.

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

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SallySue, I totally agree that she was looking for an excuse and she used Truth's and Emach's posts to set us up. I was totally dumbfounded when I read her post on Soulful and her statement that calling Clay a faggot would justify Clay fans calling Ruben a nigger. And then when she is called out on it, her feelings are hurt and she should leave the board. I also didn't accept her backpaddling explanation because as an African American no where would I ever find a darogatory word used against one's lifestyle comparative to a doragotory one used against a race of people. I backed out of the conversation because I didn't want to start a rift within the group, however, because at that time I respected her as a Soulful sister. She can now kiss my ass. As Angel said in another response posts, Truths has been calling Clay a faggot since May so where was Gibblette's outrage then. Why the outrage now. It just doesn't make sense. And what really boils my blood, even more than the faggot/nigger comparison was her statement that she was concerned about "new fans" reading our board and thinking we are just like the Clay fans. Who has been thumping that war cry on the various Ruben message boards for the last month or so. That we run away new Ruben fans because we dare to call out the pretend Ruben fan bitches. A week or so before the board is to become public and all our posts were to be deleted, the site is suddenly hacked, or better yet one's screen name and password given to someone to log on and copy and paste posts on various message boards. What is the fucking purpose? It couldn't possibly be to discredit Ruben because Ruben's cd is out and doing well on it's on. No, it is to show that we are no better than the Clay fans, in fact, we are actually worse. It has to be a personal vendetta against Angel and Emach. That is what is so pathetic about this entire situation. Jealousy and evy has reared it's ugly head again. I logged off early yesterday so I missed it all but this is really disheartening and upsetting. And, of course, everything we have done or said is being spinned in a darogatory way and wow we are the scum of the earth, the haters, the sinister plotters out to destroy Clay. I see this morning where one of the MPD's is calling Ruben's mother a slut. I for one, have no regrets for joining this group, I, for one, see where I have done nothing wrong, and I, for one, are proud of each and every one of you "real" Ruben supporters and not the pretenders. Hopefully, but I know I am only dreaming, this shit will not be the topic of discussion today on the board but I will be ready.

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Johnnie I posted on Bolt. Go check it out....

...."Come on Take the Shot..."

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I couldn't agree with you more Bone.

Ruben ROCKS my world!

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My take on is is pretty much like Johnnies, this was a well thought out plan. We have been sucker punched. I say we have to show a united front, we have only answered the battle cry. I am not ashamed so screw them! I know Gibblette did not act alone, that is my only concern. Was it Shelly?

"I met Ruben" Clare and Sherri are awesome ladies! "Soulful Rocks"

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i got this yesterday..

Gibblette Dec 21 2003 11:04PM
42/F/US

and why am I being blamed? I didn't do anything but leave Soulful! That is the honest to God truth!

i just saw it today so i didn't reply last night.. i'm just nauseous.. not about them knowing stuff, but about what she did...
i don't regret one damn thing either... i even wrote about it and said i didn't care about the jmiller article that i would even said i wrote it... they can villify us all they want... i have already written most of them off as the scum of the earth anyway. they disgust me and i for one am glad we undermined their ugly efforts.. they can all go to hell, but with their judgement, racism and hypocrisy i'm sure they already have express tickets.

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I wonder which god she worships? The same one who ohas judged and condemned Michael Jackson already? Her word is shit with me right about now. To the Claymutts: Fuckem all, especially the ones who are whining about how damn 'hurt' they are. Those bitches don't know what hurt is!

...."Come on Take the Shot..."

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I don't give a damn about the mutts either. And the ones who thnk they are above reproach are actually more culpable in the matter. If the sane ones had really done more than say stop and come and say I like Ruben on the bolt board then I would have more concern. It's because nobody really did anything and are now feeding into their pychosis that I feel justified in saying whatever I damn well please. Yes Soulful was set up, and it was an inside job, and probably was in the works for a while. I hope they are happy!

"I met Ruben" Clare and Sherri are awesome ladies! "Soulful Rocks"

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Yep I think it was Shelly and yup i'm almost completely certain that she was working with Gibblette but what i don't think is that it's been in the works for a while. I noticed after the last time that i told Gibbles off about the sniper thing that she had been posting less....maybe that's when she hooked up with Shelly. Then all of the hint dropping about Soulful on every board...that's Shelly's work for sure. I just know for certain that the last 3 days Gibblette has been collecting data.

Dawn, notice that Shelly's private board has had ZERO activity since yesterday morning??? Odd?

...."Come on Take the Shot..."

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This has shelly written all over it... i just don't understand ppl like her... NOW you all know why i totally eliminated psychiatry from my list of possible specialties.. because as interesting as the field is.. i just don't have the patience for it.. at a certain point, i don't WANT to know why you're fucked up, and i don't want to have anything to do with it... the ppl who are borderline crazy are more dangerous than the ppl who are certifiable, because the borderline and milder individuals can function in day to day life and they can go undetected for a while before anyone is really on to their obsessive issues. i don't want anything to do with this person.. i don't even want to communicate with her.. she's just dangerous.

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Holy crap.....just got done 1/2 ass reading the 125 post on clayboard......

I want to go read other posts on our board- so I'll be back later- got to get tons of work done too....all I can say so far is -this sucks shit....

No one understands the history since the beginning- unless they've been around as much as we have.....and I bet most of those claymites have private ranting sites they go to also- they just haven't had anyone expose them yet- it just SUCKS SHIT that it was one of our own....

Going to work- and try to read in between...I'm very disappointed in gibbles.....you think you know some one...

I Love Ruben

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Yes, Angel after I checked in here this morning I check there and nothing all day. Very suspicious. Why I am even more certain though that this has been in the pipeline for at least a couple of weeks is that Nikki post dated Dec 2. It was an attempt at thumbing their nose at you in particular. Do you see what I am getting at? I am going to pick up my son in a few then I will be back. Geez!

"I met Ruben" Clare and Sherri are awesome ladies! "Soulful Rocks"

A Typical letter to Media

My response from Channel One

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-----Original Message-----
From: Candace Higgins [mailto:candyhigs@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:48 AM
To: feedback@channelone.com
Subject: Thursday Music Poll Concerns

Dear Channel One:

I am very upset to see that a group of fans from the internet have
infiltrated your Thursday Music poll. These Clay Aiken Bolt Babes (bolt.com)

pride themselves in having Clay win every poll out there, not matter what.
They are experts at clearing their cookies and finding other ways to spam
the poll. After viewing the results of your poll, I have released that they
will make this one not valid either. Most members are well over school age.
Attached are some sample posts. I am sure once you read these posts from the

fan site you will agree with me that they are not the type of people that
watch or agree with Channel One.
Thank you for your time and please respond.
Candace Higgins

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Hello,

Thanks for your e-mail. I've forwarded it to our webmaster and he will be
addressing your concerns shortly.

Sincerely,
Robin Lapid
Channel One News

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WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

Jaysen Miller, Posed, Got Caught

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Here is my response from James Shepherd from Beavers Online. I even forgive him for his typo on my fake name. LOL

Hi Jason:

Thank you for your submission. I have reviewed it just once, but I think it is
quite suitable for publication. I enjoy seeing counter viewpoints, and your
article, plus the one you are refuting, help to support something I'm currently
writing.

I will let you know when your article is published.

Thanks again,
James Shepherd

I am sooooooooo tickled!!!!

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We need an applause smiley.

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Great!

Ruben ROCKS my world!

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Whoopeee! Congratulations Angel. You've down us all proud.

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Thank you friends!!!

What raleighlady needs to recognize is that she is not dealing with amateurs when she deals with Ruben fans. She'd better have her s--t TIGHT, or she'll have an emach, bone, dallasivy, black panther, mymanisclay, or an angel on her azzz!!!

High FIVE mah sistahs!!!!

...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."

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Go Angel

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Perhaps you guys missed it, but Seasook emailed Raleighlady's article to 20/20 hoping they will investigate the reason why Clay is not getting the airplay the Claymutts think he deserves.

Topic: Clay and ABC's 20/20
seasook

Oct 30 2003 4:36PM
With raleighlady's permission I sent an email to ABC's 20/20 which included her masterpiece of an article Dear Mr DJ. Thought they might want to do a little investigative reporting on this. I'm on a mission now...

angelicisis
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hmmm...perhaps one of her 'detractors' should send my article to 20/20 with my permission....

Way to go angel. Can't wait until those stupid Claymutts read the article. What a joy it will be to read bolt.

Here's to you girl.....
When Ruben Sings...I listen

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I'm On it, but it will add credibility if we ALL did as well!!!!! will get you the address!!!!!

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

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I'm so proud of you ladies!

"Imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you try. No hell below us, above us only sky, Imagine all the people, living for today,.."

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I will be happy to send it, I am on a mission too! Emach - Can you get me the address ? I have my reunion today so will send tomorrow.

Ruben ROCKS my world!

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Ok,

I need one of our regular super militants to take the blame. I prefer Bone, because of her eloquent writing style. They can't go after Johnnie because she is never on Bolt anymore....so my idea is this:

Bone goes and posts on the Clay board, 'confessing' who she really is. She'll just say that she 'borrowed' my name not knowing that I (angel) had posted something in Ruben's guestbook. She'll say that she wrote the rebuttal because she has an opinion, and she'd do it again regardless of what they think. Etc. etc.

She tells them to not attack me (Angel) because it was her, and she'll say that she will post it on every board, and then she'll publicly apologize to me. Also Johnnie, you can say that you picked my name because it sounded like a 'guys' name, and you can say that you are a GUY - priceless!!!!

This will work because I have been moving ALL last week, and really didn't have time to do this, did I?

In fact, I won't go back to Bolt for a few more days....just to make it super real.

Questions, ideas, etc. Welcomed. I'm cracking up laughing that they can't let ANYTHING go. What are they gonna do, hunt me down and kill me?

Bring it ON!

...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."

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Great idea, but only if Bones agrees to it!!! PLEASE!!!!!

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Angel, I'm game. What Clay board do I start with? Look, I have to run downtown for a couple of hours this morning so let me know. I tried Saturday to sign up for HotTopic and they emailed me my registration but for someone it's not going through.

But anyway, I'll be back and see what you suggests.

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Johnnie LOVE you!!!
Thanks so much girl....What i'm gonna do is to paste a couple of the emails here that they have sent me (so far I have 77). You can put them into your post on Bolt (please post there first) as 'proof' that you are the article's author.

"So, why exactly are YOU threatened by Clay Aiken? Are Clay fans bothering you? Get a life!!"

Here is the last one which I received :

"How about...I love his voice..it's the best voice Ive heard in years."

Post here please Johnnie, after you do it please. So that we can all read it.

The most important thing is that you say that you read that it was AngelicIsis on another board, and how wrong there are/were. Thank you!!!!

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And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."

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OH! Johnnie, you might also remind them how you were the one who edited the "Just For Fun" post. Just to let them know that you ain't no joke.

GREAT idea! Putting that just for fun in will really make it look good.

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I was going to do that anyway. But Angel, they don't really seem to be discussing it on Bolt. The theory that a Ruben fan, a.k.a. Angel has not even been brought up. As of now they just think it is a jealous person. When I looked this morning on Bolt, there were a Beavorsidol thread but only three respondents. This seems to be more of an issue with some of the other Clay boards. The bolt babes right now are too entrenched in their get out the Clay requests prompted by Dancermom's post. Also, not sure if you are aware of it but Raleighlady will be writing a rebuttal focusing on Ruben fans because it was bought to her attention by someone posting your post that it was a known Ruben fan who wrote it. Someone even on That's The Clay suggested you be called out on it and that your post be sent to beavorsidol.com in an attempt to portray you as a fraud. Got this off that That's The Clay message board. Other than not giving your real name, I am sorry I don't see what the problem here is. The bitches are just looking for ways to distract from the truth. So I don't know, perhaps it will be better played out in a rebuttal to Raleighlady's rebuttal. But again, they're not talking about it on Bolt. Now if someone wants to bring it up? .

Girls, put your heads together and let's think on this real seriously. But I have no problem putting it out there that it is me, either on the Clay messages boards or even on beavorsidol.com. My question still is, so what if it's a Ruben fan? Are our opinions not worth listening to?

I gotta go now. I should have been gone but, you know, I can't get over this addiction.

Johnnie.

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Johnnie,

I get your point, but those Bolt babes have their own secret meeting place much like we do, and remember the old adage that when you don't hear anything...be suspicious. Just because they aren't talking about it on Bolt just lets me know that they are revving it up somewhere else. I still think that you should type it up and cut and paste it on each and every board. That way they KNOW that you are covering your bases. I just want you to start with Bolt for personal reasons. I have friends there, and don't want them to cut me off from my information sources. I.E. sherry9, llama, etc.

After you post it, then the other Ruben soldiers will come to your defense and state that why can't Ruben fans have opinions, blah blah blah....it'll be world war 3 on the Bolt boards today.

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I agree Angel. Johnnie just like we played down the incident about Shelly and the e-mals to Carson Daly I'm sure they are doing the same thing. I've been reading their boards and I promise you, they are up to no good.They are highly vindictive and nothing they will do will surprise me.

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I AM SO DOWN WITH THAT!!!!! I WILL COME OUT TODAY OR WHENEVER TO SAY THAT!!! I DON'T GIVE A DAMN... ITS THE GODDAMN INTERNET!!!!!!! WTF CAN THEY DO TO US? THEY BETTER BE GLAD IT IS THE INTERNET OTHERWISE THEIR PUNKASSES WOULDN'T HAVE HALF AS MUCH TO SAY AND THEY KNOW IT....

whatever, man.......... i'll say i know who wrote it, i loved it, encouraged, and agree with every goddamn word.. i don't give a s--t.... i would've written one of my own if i had the time, and i STILL might do it now that ppl are trippin so bad... but MY commentary will be going to vibe, ebony, essence, etc.. letting ppl know of all this petty bullshit.....

all of those bitches can kiss my ass!!!!! whatever you all want me to say, i'm saying it... i'm pulling EVERYBODY's card over there at the goddamn clayboard..... hypocritical racist skanks....

AND I'm taking out my redskins frustration on them TOO? yo, its about to be 'braveheart' up in here!!!!!

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lmao IVY!

You are tripping.
I have to go out now so please keep me updated. Ivy, I am sending my cellphone number to your ezinbox. Please check it, and gimme a call later. Thanks girl!

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I also agree. I mean WTF ??? We can't have opinions? Bitches!

With the election tomorrow, I don't know how much I will be on - but when I am here I have all my Ru pals' backs!

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What if we say we ALL wrote it! All 800,000 + Ruben fans!

Now there can be something to worry about if they can trace emails. I know AOL is impossible to trace and there is another one but can't remember it. In the war of the Bee Gees fan clubs, one fan club would actually hack into the other fan club's website on a regular basis. They signed them up for porn sites and any other spam. Just about anything you can do to someone with their email address and ISP number, they did it! Since these people are getting more and more insane, I would not be surprised to see them do these kinds of things. Just be prepared!

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Angel, I have no clue how are we going to explain this one. Read the threads below. They got you pegged as the author. Them bitches are smarter than I thought. Lesson learned!!! Next time use a different name. Raleighlady is also writing a rebuttal to the rebuttal!!!!

We need Ivy to hone in her skills and respond to that one. I wish I could write something, but I will one day. Johnnie, you are one awesome writer as well and very effective, we also need you to write something. BITCHES BITCHES I HATE THEM ALL !!!!
RHT is pissing me off

They have a thread about Dateline. It mad me so mad I had to leave. It wouldn't look to good if "songsbyclay" ( me). Started telling those MF off. damn damn damn. GGGGRRRR!

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that's why i can't go to RHT.. i've gone there twice and i was so pissed i replied... i can't go there anymore..lol

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After the Soulful Sistahs were exposed for their smear campaign, they re-grouped in another secret place. This time it was a hidden forum on the George Huff fan board.

When the article by "Jaysen Miller", that was written in such a way as to pose as a concerned ex-fan was published by James Shepherd on his "Beavers on Idol" blog, the Soulful gang wrote a lot of inflammatory e-mails to the writer that were collected and forwarded to the site owner, James. It was well orchestrated to put the Clayfans in a very bad light and he fell for it hook line and sinker.

One of the many e-mails written by a poser. Note the age and the expression of disappointment in the racism and mean nature they are putting on Clay's fans.

I have never wrote a letter about an article, but your article is
OUTSTANDING.

"I am 57 years old, living in Chicago, but my home is in
Ohio. I am a Ruben fan mainly because I came up in an era when we had
real singers (Marvin Gaye, O'Jays, The Whispers. etc.) and Ruben reminds
me of that era. I am so sick of Hip-Hop. I asked my daughter, what will
their DUSTIES (old records) consist of.

Thank you again for a marvelous article. I have never seen such racists
and mean spirited people as Clay's fans."

James writes back about the e-mails that were forwarded to him.

Thanks Jaysen:

Receiving 27 emails in support of your article is a significant number. Thanks
for relaying this to me. This helps me in understanding what is, and has been,
going on.

Your willingness to take the time and compose your article and submit it, is
significant too. I thank you for sending it.

Regards,
James

Hello Jaysen:

I just wanted to let you know that Sheri Liles has another article on Beavers On
Idol that is a rebuttal to yours.

If you want the last word, you are free to submit another rebuttal. However, I
do not want this to turn into a long and drawn out spitting match between the
two of you. I think both your points of view are valid, and I will attempt to
publish something myself that may, mind you, MAY, find some middle ground
between your different perspectives.

So you have the advantage of having the last word if you so choose.

Sincerely,
James

Hi Jaysen:

I will be publishing your second article probably tomorrow (Monday). I try to
take a break on the weekend, so this is why there is a delay.

I think this exchange between you and Sheri Liles has provided some extremely
valuable insight into this whole issue of Clay Aiken and his fans.

Before I write anything myself in this area, because I feel I must address it, I
will wait for the sales results this coming Wednesday from Billboard. I think
the 4th week of sales for Clay's album will be most important indeed.

You have done some valuable research for this article. I just wish I had a
better handle on how many fans Clay Aiken really has -- I'm hoping that
Wednesday's sales figures will reveal this.

Sincerely,
James

Hello Jaysen:

Your second article, "Opinion of a Fan" is now published.

I have appreciated your contributions and for balancing the viewpoints. More
often than not, Beavers On Idol does not have the fuel to present two opposing
views like this.

Sincerely,
James

Hello Jaysen:

And I wanted to thank you for your contributions here at Beavers On Idol. They
were excellent.

I just published an article today that tries to deal with this Clay fan issue. I
truly believe that most of Clay's fans are quite sane indeed, and that the rabid
ones are simply a very vocal minority.

Sincerely,
James

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I'm sorry girls, but I have just about had it with everything! I try and go on Bolt, but the inane and stupid conversations just about put me to sleep or they're so ridiculously unfunny that I just go and peep on the Clay board because it's so much more interesting.

As for Soulful, well it was fun while it lasted, but it seems as if the people here are tiring of working too. I sat on here all day today and it's after 2pm, and I saw maybe 3 posts at the most since 6am. I'll never get tired of working for Ruben's causes, but I am tired of the internet.

As soon as I get the chance, I will turn over ownership of this board to one of you gals. I can't do it anymore. I will just support Ruben by buying numerous cd, any magazines that I see him on/in, his Teddy Bear (whenever they decide to release it) etc.

So girlies, it's been fun....real fun and I thank you both soooooo sooooo much! I'll be deleting my Bolt account shortly as well. Take care.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

I will be calling you tomorrow to talk about this!

I don't want you to leave

Clare

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Be happy that I can't call long distance, cause otherwise I would call you and whip your ass, you wimp!!!>:

When did I ever meet Bonita the quiter????? Where is that relentless fighting spirit?? Girl, you totally dissapoint me and I mean that!!!

I know you've been going through some hard emotional times and I will blame this "revelation" on a few lost brain cells, but to quit???? I'm sorry, but that's not you!!!

As far a Soulful is concerned, I admit today has been a day that I have spent a great deal on the other side, but how do you think we are going to do spy work while sitting here?
We have to think like them in order to get what we want. If we stay away too long they will be even more suspicious of us. They're still putting out to much info that we can use.

I feel that we have accomplished a lot considering our little group. I'm not being unrealistic to think we can win them all because they are a working machine and we are a little group of determined individuals. Everyone that comes here is doing something. I have not received any response to ANY of my missives and it's extremely frustrating. I know that you feel the same, but who cares, Captain, SC, gibblette, Sippy, you and I are doing the best we can.

You better pick yourself back up from that floor you threw yourself at and get your ducks in a row. I don't associate with quiters and I'm not about to start now!!! So missy, don't you give me that "I can't take it no more crap" cause "homey don't play that".

Elaine

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okay, I see, I'm on "ignored" mode...I know you're there, you lurker you, it's aaight....my feelings are hurt, but it's all good baby cakes....take your time...

My keety is watching you.....

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Just wanted you guys to know - she said that Alvin and Ruben are definitely NOT good friends with Clay. She said that Ru knows what Clay is up to, and that the things he says about Clay in public are for 'publicity' sake. He's not confused at all about Mr. Innocent.

Emach we knew that ALL along didn't we?

I knew it!!!!!! Now we just have to wait for everyone else to see it!

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Hey ladies,

Shelly wanted me to stir the hornet's nest some so she gave me ALL of Clay's private & personal info and told me to post about it on the Bolt board...so if you read it, that's whats up.

I was wondering why she was posting that link - figured she had a good motive. Are ya going spill it all! Please?????//

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No Cap, that link has nada to do with my post. She sent me ALL of Clay's info. Phone numbers, his address, mama's new numbers and the church he attends and the # there.

She's feeling naughty I guess.....you gotta read my Bolt posts about it. Cyberbitch thought it was her duty to correct & chastise me. Puhlease!

OH! That is a real move, but I LOVE it!

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I was wondering what the hell were you doing by posting that!!! That's why I BNd you. I hope it doesn't backfires. I don't trust this Clay folk...

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I still can't find it!

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:42:46 -0800 (PST)
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Angel, you do know that i am not upset with you at all, now i cant say the same about emach because she may not remember it now, but she was very abusive to me on bolt quite ahwile ago. I hate the fued, i think the fueds are stupid and i wish instead everyone could spend their energies getting the radio dj's too realize that just because clay, ruben kelly and heck the rest of them came from American idol..they are still legitimate talents!!
As for boomer..trust me. she is a thorn in rht side as much as yours right now. She is a group of about 3 or 4 that i believe they called the basement bitches because they use to post together on one of the old sites sub areas that most people did not got to. And i dont care who it is, she spends most of her time thinking anyone who doesnt agree with her is someone else. She decided just the other week that i was Todd because i was taking his side when we had a major problem when the bb's were having a big fight with one of our few male posters, and they made it public instead of trying to handle it with pm's. I have to deal with her alot because i babysit the i'm concerned section so i do not have the option of just putting here and others that get anoying on the ignore button option. She actually was going to leave over that fight,(a couple of the others did, all but one have come back) and of course...Boomer came back but even more fired up then ever. As for the isp thing, that is a thing that anyone can do and get anywhere and i first saw it used to prove multiple online personalities at TTC when their big broo-ha came out when their founders left the site. I also know that isp can and cannot change depending on if you are a dial up or dsl, not sure of the exact tech, part of it. I am sending your email to Todd, i know that it wouldnt do any good for him to butt in because it just doesnt work with the bb's, he did the one moving of a thread a thread a few months ago (not delete mind you, just moving) and you would of thought he had shot some one dead that group was sooooooo upset. I guess that is the situation when you deal with a free speech, NON MODERATED site, which rht is. And trust me, todd is as upset about peoples "location" being made public, because he always was public with his name and location and could have to deal with the consequences if someone wasnt thinking "quite" right and wanted to do something bad. I am very concerned about the threats shelly told me was made against her. (though, i also do understand that she could just be making it up) I think that is the frustration i am feeling now more than anything, as you could tell when i posted my statement today. I am so confused as to the whats, and who, and the whys with the ruben fans that have been sooo public with the misdeads that initiated and followed through by some of the main ruben board supporters. I am just learning about the power issues that seem to develop in situations like this, and never thought i would actually end up on the side that could actually have a little power..(which in itself is a big joke when i look at..i have the power to do what? Yep..NOTHING!!! i cant even delete a post if i thouht it needed to!) whoops.. i just saw that emach has emailed me. oh vey, why does she scare me soo much.lol help me if you can on that one. Because while i said what i did, tongue in cheek about having a ruben section. I talked to todd big about it monday night and he thinks it would be a great idea!!!!! (and also because it would freak the crap out of people like boomer!!!!) And i wish there wasnt this animosity between you all that from what i can tell started at bolt, because i really think YOU should be the one to head it! not shelly, not emach, but you because i have been pm by different people (those that dont like to post) that on the whole by and large, you seem to be pretty level headed. Just a big ruben fan, like i am a big clay fan! Oh well, i hate having to do all of this on the computer. perhaps friday when i am done with my final class exams tom. afternoon and have some real free time. We can talk on the phone. If that is okay with you, let me know and i will give you my phone number (because i dont want you to worry about me having yours) Okay..i am going to go read emachs email now and then i will forward yours to todd and see what can be done, (i have been gone since i left today at noon, so i have no idea what all has been going on this afternoon. really am afraid to even check it out) feel free to give emach a call after you get this, and trust me with the fact, that while right now i am so confused with what is exactly going on, (i literally puked when i read the stuff at the euroweb site over thanksgiving) i still hate the fact that we are having to take the time dealing with crap when we should all be celebrating the success both clay and ruben have right now! (you were right about the whole shelly thing causing a problem. That is why i didnt post her email to me when she first did email. (which is why i think she started the thread in the first place a week or so later) oh well, isnt "the view" with ruben tom? or is it friday. I need to know so i can set my vcr. i thought he did a great job on leno, and i like the stuff on et last night! (did anyone ever answer my question i asked on rs.com about if there is a site where you can see ruben videos of his stuff on the web?) If not, that is why you need to consider the rht thing because it is great to be able to get and see stuff like tha on the computer. i would die without my ability to get some serious clack online!
later, deb (by the way, no one has yet answered my question about if you all wanted to use my Rolling Stone that ruben autog. as some kind fundraiser or what ever, because the offer is still out there.)

...."Come on Take the Shot..."

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I will tell you two ladies only. And it might work better, if I am attacked by the Ru fans. That way the mites will come to my rescue
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i love your new name!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol! don't forget a couple of things, leave your board posts OPEN. they are suspicious of hidden board post people....and try to find a picture online of a sweet looking young white girl to add to your photos....

the more 'shit' that they have on you, the more they'll trust you! also, find a SEXY pic of clay to add to your photos - good luck clare!!!!!!!!!

Great advice! I will do. We are off to a b-day for the night, but will work on that tomorrow.

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I also ventured with a new name...."charmed4real".

Captain I'll make you prevy of my other "little secret", I'm Perturbed4life and I developed a new strategy that might work. Eaaaaaaarly this morning I gave then a little hell, but I think I may have asserted some kind of credibility with non other than Michael Nozzi (AKA Iloveamerica). Go to Perturbed4life posts.

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OMG! I didn't have you pegged for perturbed! You are one slick chica! And I didn't know Nozzi was IloveAmerica! Man, I miss all the signs! I will check it out.

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: --> evil hee hee hee hee hee

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can't post it generally. it is jsenmiller. i prefer to keep that private from everyone except you two.

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And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."

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Cap and I decided earlier today that you have rightfully earned the title of MPD QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!

For your incessant spying, name changing, personality switching, completely sneaky and 100% foolproof identities, you have been crowned this years MPD Queen 2003-2004.

You have earned the right to post anywhere at anytime with any name that you choose. Of course these options are limited to Soulful and Bolt only.

kudos to you emach, badkeety, perturbedforlife, thevoice, etc, etc, et al....

We LOVE you MPD!!!!!!!!

Yippeee! Congratulations! Wear your crown proud girl!

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**AHEM** , you missed Biatch31,

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Created a new name and spammed. I guess I was inspired by Dennis!

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And now my Ru friends are blocking me

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LOL!!!!! I think I gained some credibility over there with my Charmed4real postings. I even did one about my clay wedding!!!!

I was cruel too, I asked LensLarryJuliet to be my maid of honor...

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YOU guys are a trip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn - Elaine! I can't keep track of all your names! You are the Queen MPD!!!

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I only have 8 of them:

emach1300
Badkeety
Biatch31
Perturbed4Life
The Voice03
Charmed4real
MotherLove2
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Sometimes I have no clue of who the hell I am!!!!!

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angelicisis
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(10/1/03 8:51 pm)
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Cap
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I addressed this to you since I know that you are online, emach isn't I don't think.

I love Shelly and all, she's a great girl. What I don't understand is why she calls me, gives me updates, asks me to post them and them comes right on afterwards and updates my posts!!!

That last one, she said almost exactly the same thing that I did with the exception of the Dateline thingy. She could've just saved herself the long distance charges and posted it herself. I wouldn't have been offended at all. I missed the second half of ED while talking to her.

Thanks for reading/listening, I just had to get that off my chest. LuvNhugs.

You are right, that's weird...What I would love for her to do is hook us up with a phone call to Ruben. THAT would be cool!!!!

On a serious note, I have to give you MY opinion on all this that transpired yesterday.

Actually let me sum it all up. Even though I liked the fact we all came together and fought a good one, I also feel, Shelly have blown our cover wide open. We failed to tell her to keep it within this site's confine. There's a reason we don't bring this stuff to Bolt. Only what needs to be put out.

Do you really believe we can act conspicuous from this point on? Do we really believe they will not think we are scheming? Before they were not sure, now they KNOW! I sure hope it won't backfire. I will post something on General Discussion so that people can cool down...

I don't want to be painted as the bird of doom and gloom here, but I think we need to really keep a real low profile and ask Shelly not to post on Bolt no more...for now at least. JMHO.

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

captain38
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(10/2/03 7:33 am)
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Bonita - sorry I didn't see this till this morning. I agree, she should either post or you, not double dose. As you said she is calling long distance. Maybe she is excited and wants to talk with someone about the stuff.

Emach - I too have been very uneasy the past few days of what has been posted. Although I love the help, gossip, the website trick etc. from Shelly I feel she has blown her cover too. Now the mites and maybe some of the others will look at her as another bitter Ru fan. We know her info and contacts are real, but they will give no credit and it may backfire on Ruben's reputation. Just some feelings I have had.

I really wasn't able to particpate in the "action" yesterday, but loved to read about everyone coming together.

Have a great day!

Ruben ROCKS my world!

angelicisis
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(10/2/03 7:38 am)
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Elaine,

Please understand that I HAVE asked Shelly to not post ANYTHING on Bolt. I actually asked her twice yesterday!!! I have been trying to be diplomatic, but it's not working. She promised me 2 times yesterday that she wouldn't post anything else on Bolt. I know exactly what you are saying, but she's like a loose cannon right now.

What's killing us is that she is posting and running, and we are left to clean up her mess. I told her that if she keeps doing that shit that I am going to leave it alone and let the fallout come down on her.

She has the mites pissed, and she's pissed and she is kind of using us as a shield for her anger. THAT's what we can't let her do.

Cap? Your thoughts???

Whew, I'm glad we are all in the same page, becasue even though I liked the idea of emailiong Carson she also made me mad by publicly publishing it. I was like this is it, our cover is blown out the water....

Hopefully we will be able to do some damamge control....

I think what happened was she was not able to do the same because she really has no support from her group like we have from ours and once she came here and saw what we had accomplished she used it.

I really wished she had hooked you up on a three way Angel, so that Alvin and Ruben understand what we are doing and let him know we will help them to, but we have to be extremely slick in doing so.

I felt she was on a mission all on her own, but using us in the meantime. I also felt maybe Alvin suggested all that she did yesterday...I dunno, we need a direct hook up with Alvin...Elaine

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

angelicisis
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(10/2/03 8:03 am)
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Elaine,

You don't know just how close you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From what I can ascertain from Shelly, Ruben knows about Slicky Boy, and the internet racisim, but most of the other stuff is between Alvin and Shelly.

Just between the 3 of us, I think that Shelly's agenda is more Alvin and JAFC than Ruben. The Ruben camp won't let her in, his Mom won't respond to her and it's pissing her off - so she uses Alvin. Our bridge will be KEVIN. Trust me on this!!!

I'll still in keep in touch with Shelly, as she is a good friend and contact, but we can't let her be privy to anymore of our harshest stuff. Fun is fun, but she crossed the line a bit yesterday.

I so totaly agree.....

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

angelicisis
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(10/2/03 8:09 am)
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Hey E,

I am available for most of the day today after about 12pm. Please let me know if there is anything that you need me to do. Tomorrow, I won't be on most likely, it's Dennis' birthday and I am taking him to see that Denzel movie during the afternoon, to breakfast and dinner. Showin' a brotha some love!!!!!

Sorry about all the Shelly stuff....and please know, I hate being used!

captain38
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(10/2/03 9:56 am)
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I did reply earlier and I agree with all the Shelly stuff. Latch onto Kevin Studdard - he will be our ticket.
Sorry to hear the troubles are still going on with the football stuff. Go get em!

Ruben ROCKS my world!

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(10/3/03 9:56 pm)
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snipers back!!!!
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birthday boy is at it again. his nick is snipersback and he's terrorizing clayland right now LOL

...and this time he has his trusty assistant.

I figured his assistant would jump in any time now. You guys make a hilarious couple!!!!!

Who's Cas son? She said he was a basher, what's the name?

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

captain38
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(10/4/03 8:51 am)
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I will have to go check out his posts.
Was cas's son the skater dude?

Ruben ROCKS my world!

angelicisis
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(10/4/03 9:28 am)
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cas' son was someone whose name started with a C. check out her post from last night, it was actually CAS but she screwed up and posted as the basher.

she panicked and called me after midnight, and we came up with the plan to blame it on her son.

...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."

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(10/4/03 9:34 am)
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Ruben ROCKS my world!

angelicisis
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(10/4/03 9:45 am)
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the claypper!!! that was the name.

Yea, I just saw that. You two are slick at covering up
That is why I can't have my spy window and my captain window at the same time. Now Emach - that's a different story! You are the masta!

Ruben ROCKS my world!

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(11/5/03 1:33 pm)
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Shocking discovery....
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Prepared to be shocked!!!!

I think I know who fanofruben is......none other than Shelly

Fanofruben posted this morning that she had confirmed that Ruben will not be at the Cavaliers game tonight. She called them and confirmed he was never scheduled to be there. I was shocked because I had received an email from Shelly that I read early this morning (3am) saying exactly the same. Doesn't it make sense now that she's always posting updates?

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

angelicisis
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I dunno emach!

When we had that big to-do with fanofruben before, she bolt/noted me telling me how her husband is big like Ruben and overweight, etc etc.

Shelly's husband is an in-shape hottie. Also, fanofruben lives in Cleveland, eastern standard time. Shelly lives in Colorado, mountain time.

That would mean that Shelly is up at 6am posting information. I don't see that happening, since she has 2 teeny kids who are not in school....i'm gonna call and ask her.

OH - by the way, beware of SMA. I noticed on the J Records site that you typed something about Kinona, but you typo'd it and spelled it Kinina....but SMA came back and asked you about kiNONA. Now how the HELL would she know the correct spelling?????? Things that make you go hmmmm....

Also, puppycake! That is ME!!!!!!!!!!!! Needed an alter-ego to try and disprove that idiot queensmum/memorex.
Puppycake is my nickname for my baby Donovan. LOL

...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."

Edited by: angelicisis at: 11/5/03 2:36 pm

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(11/9/03 6:06 pm)
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emach my RHT i.d.
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is clayferprez. the password is aiken66, should have been aiken666 for that damn devil

tread lightly at first because i've told that Boomerrules that I usually lurk and not post...etc.

so Helena knows you're clayforprez?

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

angelicisis
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(11/11/03 10:44 pm)
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Noooooooo...why would helena know?

Holy shit E!

I had NO idea that she was Boomer....thanks for the heads up! No wonder she mentioned my 'candles'. What a total BITCH!

I'll bet that was her impostoring me the other night too. That person had TOO much of my info...yep that was evil Helena. Revenge is sweet, and a bitch. I'll get her ass back. You'll know it when you see it.

First of all, let me say HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone here!

I have a new name at bolt...LookintheMirror...

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